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SuBMiSSioN
07-Apr-2007, 01:41 AM
Assalamu 3alaykum

Shadower, in another thread, advised that we should start raising funds for next yrs appeal, from now. So.. any ideas what can be done to raise money for the Hospital? It would be good to do something original, but uh, I'm the worst person to come up with original ideas. So I'm throwing the court open to others..

What I'm planning on doing inshaa'Allaah is starting up a new organisation... lol no no joking.. I'm planning on approaching an organisation (I'm thinking atm IISNA, or maybe Preston Masjid) with any ideas that are raised up here, and getting help from them to organise something.

So yalla, get the ball rolling.

I'm excitement :woohoo::rolleyes:

wa assalamu 3alaykum

aussiemu
07-Apr-2007, 01:50 AM
assalamu alaikum

I think the best thing to do would be to organise with each masjid to collect donations and then give it all together from the mosques in one go. I don't think this needs to be administered by any particular organisation as on Friday each person attends the mosque they usually go to.

People can then be informed beforehand i.e. the Jumah before that donations will be collected for it and will bring it with them for the day.

I think it would be good to get all the mosques to put the funds together and give it one go though as opposed to doing it individually. Maybe a rep of the Board of Imams could give it to the RCH since they are in charge of most of the mosques.

wassalamu alaikum

Shadower
07-Apr-2007, 02:02 AM
Collection tins set around Islamic center's during the year can be arranged.

Approaching the different Mosques to see which would sign on to collect after that specific Friday prayer for the RCH would need to be sorted out.

Where the money is to be gathered (most convenient would be an account to be set up where the money can be deposited by these Mosques/Organizations).

All steps of the process would need to be transparent.

Also approaching the different Islamic Schools to see who would collect money during the year for the RCH, I know KKIC (AIA) would be more then happy to sign on. So that is a start on the Islamic School front.

Shadower
07-Apr-2007, 02:05 AM
Aussiemu: I was thinking more of a year long collection process by the Islamic community until next April, not just a one off thing.

Najah
07-Apr-2007, 03:31 PM
I think starting with schools is a great idea, especially as it is kids that go to the schools.

Musa
07-Apr-2007, 03:54 PM
This was done in previous years. I can't remember if it was alst year or the year before.
Most of the mosques raised money for the appeal.

alfirdous06
07-Apr-2007, 04:47 PM
Salams,
hey im all for raising up money for the kids and all, but i think the kids that dont even get to eat or have clothes or receive ANY form of treatment in overseas muslim countries require more effort. As i said im happy to help the kids here but subhan allah lets feed others, clothe others, house others that are triple time worse off in desperate muslim countries. Or even the poor refugees from like sudan or rwanda, or pakistan or the ones still sufferin hardship from lebanon. Not meaning to discredit RCH by all means thats great but where do our priorities lie?

Najah
07-Apr-2007, 05:38 PM
I think alfirdous06 what Submission is trying to do is to get some fundraising going for the RCH because there isnt anything currently running that is doing this. We have other charities Alhumdulilah like Human Appeal, and mosques collect money, so all this stuff is happening. We have Unity 4 Sisters Inc that raises money for Somalia, so the sisters wants to start somethign that isnt currently been done.

Shadower
07-Apr-2007, 05:50 PM
Alfirdaus considering I live in Australia, my priority would be here in Australia. And as Najah pointed out, there are charitable organizations that deal with such countries.

alfirdous06
07-Apr-2007, 06:59 PM
its just a personal thing, my best friends family were killed in sudan while trying to escape the violence and her sister is tryin to get here but visa rules are getting harder, its hard to send sums of money overthere and i see the tears in her eyes daily because she feels helpless, but then we see people donating millions was it over 10million? and it sorta makes things depressing. Muslims are brothers and sisters globally not just "im in australia i only help australia" we shouldnt and its haram to be nationalistic. as i said obviously its good to donate to RCH and our family does yearly, im just saying dont lose sight on the bigger scale of things. Because u think its enough actually study and u'll see the stark reality. As muslims on the day of judgement Allah will ask why you did not help the brothers and sisters to the best of your ability when you had the funds to. What will you say? "I was in australia so i only help australia"

SuBMiSSioN
07-Apr-2007, 09:30 PM
its just a personal thing, my best friends family were killed in sudan while trying to escape the violence and her sister is tryin to get here but visa rules are getting harder, its hard to send sums of money overthere and i see the tears in her eyes daily because she feels helpless, but then we see people donating millions was it over 10million? and it sorta makes things depressing. Muslims are brothers and sisters globally not just "im in australia i only help australia" we shouldnt and its haram to be nationalistic. as i said obviously its good to donate to RCH and our family does yearly, im just saying dont lose sight on the bigger scale of things. Because u think its enough actually study and u'll see the stark reality. As muslims on the day of judgement Allah will ask why you did not help the brothers and sisters to the best of your ability when you had the funds to. What will you say? "I was in australia so i only help australia"

But I am helping my brothers and sisters. How many of your brothers and sisters here in Australia have had to send their kids to the Royal Children's Hospital? Or any other children's hospital around Australia? Would they have been able to get the treatment they've needed, if us, the people of Australia, didn't gather to help the hospital get the equipment it needs?

Just because one is raising funds for a cause here in Australia, it does in no way mean that we're not giving charity for those who are in need overseas, nor does it mean we're discrediting those who prefer to send their money to their families, but please don't question where our priorities lie.

alfirdous06
07-Apr-2007, 10:28 PM
Salams
I meant no disrespect, i dont want to cause dispute. As i have said continuosly i truly do support RCH, i just simply didnt want people to lose sight of the bigger picture thats all. But whatever quest you have with raising money for royal children hospital (tho i dont think it shud specifically be good friday, maybe eid :) ) inshallah all goes well, i guess anything that brings something positive deserves reward, but just dont forget those outside the circle as you go let them not be put on the backburner. however if there needs any help somehow i'm more than happy to oblige.

SuBMiSSioN
07-Apr-2007, 10:33 PM
I'm going to ask about this whole raising money on Good Friday business. Either way, this project will be going ahead inshaa'Allaah, whether it's on a "Good Friday" or any other day :)

alfirdous06
07-Apr-2007, 11:17 PM
Thats exactly what i meant. Anyways submission, keep us posted on your project and inshaallah everything works out and people get helped, and muslims that help with no arriyah in their hearts get the rewards of sadaqah and jannah al firdous ameeeeeeeeen :)

Shadower
08-Apr-2007, 11:26 PM
The whole idea here is to collect money for the RCH. If people wish to collect money for another cause that is fine.

aussiemu
09-Apr-2007, 12:35 AM
Yeah I think it is better that it's focus is kept on one thing. There are other projects running with the various aid organisations for other parts of the world so if someone feels strongly about it they should work on them.

Lena
11-Apr-2007, 11:45 PM
I think this is a great idea.. Maybe Insh'Allah approaching a few of the Masjids and Schools in certain areas would be a start, rather than one organisation.. Even approaching Muslim Owned shops would be good also..

SuBMiSSioN
12-Apr-2007, 12:42 AM
Well, since no one has come up with any suggestions.. I'll let everyone know of what my thoughts were.

I'm planning on approaching a few organisations, masjids, schools, unis etc and talking to them about raising money for the Children's hospital. I think it would be a good idea if each of the different sections of the community were to have some sort of project running during the year to raise funds for the hospital, then we could gather all the money together into one account, and from now till next yr, pass on all the money that was raised.

For example, maybe we can have the organisations run a bbq, and from that raise funds for the hospital. We could get the masjids to have an open day/lecture and raise funds from that, and so on and so forth.

What's everyone think?

Shadower
12-Apr-2007, 10:10 PM
I like the BBQ idea, that would be a popular one.

When is the plan to actually give the money? Personally I believe the best option would be on the day of the Good Friday Appeal next year.

Lena
13-Apr-2007, 12:24 AM
Good Friday is a good idea, If it's allowed Insh'Allah..

What about doing fundraisers? LIke selling chocolates and stuff..

SuBMiSSioN
13-Apr-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm not sure about when we're going to be handing the money over yet. Still waiting on a few responses from a couple of mashayekh in and around Melbourne.

As for fundraisers.. I'm thinking we can get the unis/schools to do that inshaa'Allaah.

Lena
13-Apr-2007, 02:48 PM
What about selling raffle tickets at BBQs or even Lectures?

Imaan81
13-Apr-2007, 03:25 PM
I'm not sure about when we're going to be handing the money over yet. Still waiting on a few responses from a couple of mashayekh in and around Melbourne.

As for fundraisers.. I'm thinking we can get the unis/schools to do that inshaa'Allaah.

Sis, although good friday is for Christians, Friday in general is jumah for muslims. Its our special day also so i dont think there would be anything wrong with it.

Allahu alem

Al Baitel 'ateeq
13-Apr-2007, 03:33 PM
What about selling raffle tickets at BBQs or even Lectures?

Aren't raffle tickets a form of gambling?

I think it would be different if say a lunch/dinner was held as a fundraiser and then something was given away on the day and the winner was chosen by selecting a ticket number.


Sis, although good friday is for Christians, Friday in general is jumah for muslims. Its our special day also so i dont think there would be anything wrong with it.

Donations are accepted on any day of the year. As Muslims it might be best to avoid giving away a donation to the RCH on a day which is a recognised holiday for the non-Muslims. We should stand out and be different and handing the money over on any other Friday [or day] should not pose as a problem insha-Allah.

Lena
13-Apr-2007, 03:44 PM
Sorry I wasn't aware.. I just read the answer on IslamQA..

Shadower
13-Apr-2007, 04:19 PM
Personally I believe the best option would be on Good Friday.

Lena
13-Apr-2007, 04:25 PM
If it's wrong to give the money collected for the RCH on Good Friday. Then why did a few of the Masjids get together a few years back and collect money for that cause, and hand over the money on that particular day? Just a thought that crossed my mind..

Shadower
13-Apr-2007, 04:34 PM
Shaikh Fehmi was one of the Shaikhs behind that. Allah Yashfi, I must say our Shaikhs presence was sorely missed during this years appeal. The Muslims response on Good Friday was appalling.

Which is why next year I would like to see the Muslims take part in the day.

Najah
20-Apr-2007, 09:47 AM
I reckon a year long collection of donations then giving it all in one go would be the best, alot of businesses and other gruops do that. It can be given to RCH on another day besides Good Friday, they need donations all the time regardless of what time of the year it is.