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MrWarraEnib
01-Oct-2007, 06:16 PM
'My son has joined al-Qa'ida'

Richard Kerbaj | October 01, 2007


THE mother of an Islamic jihadist, who the Australian Government believes was killed fighting alongside terrorists in Somalia, says her son is alive and working with al-Qa'ida.

Khadra Nimale's son Ahmed Ali went missing in December in east Africa while fighting against the Ethiopian-backed Somalian military.

Ms Nimale said relatives in Somalia believed her 25-year-old son had changed his name and was working as an interpreter with al-Qa'ida.

She has broken her silence to tell The Australian that her son was radicalised by Melbourne-based hardline clerics.

She accused Mohammed Omran - the head of the fundamentalist Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah association, who believes Osama bin Laden is a "good man" - of turning Mr Ali into a hardliner.

Mr Ali went missing in the Somali capital of Mogadishu on December 22, two weeks after he arrived with his pregnant wife, Aisha, and one-year-old girl, Hafsa.

Mr Ali told his mother he was going to Dubai, where he and his family stayed for a week with friends before making the secret trip to Somalia. They have not spoken since.

On January 7, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs confirmed Mr Ali's death to The Australian.

But Ms Nimale said she refused to accept that he was dead because none of her relatives and government contacts back home had evidence to prove it.

She said her son began attending Sheik Omran's classes with some of his friends about six years ago.

"He was talking all the time about Sheik Omran," she told The Australian in an exclusive Arabic and English interview at her Braybrook home, in Melbourne's west.

"I lost him," Ms Nimale said as she cried.

She said Mr Ali would not have been radicalised had she and her 10 children remained in Somalia and not migrated to Australia in 1994, two years after her husband was killed in the African region while working as an army commander with the Somali Government.
"I wish I did not come to Australia because he got in trouble in this country ... they (radicals) took my son."

A spokesman for Sheik Omran rejected Ms Nimale's accusations against the spiritual leader.

"Sheik Omran is a popular person for people to blame for everything," said Abu Yusuf, who denied ever seeing Mr Ali at the cleric's classes.

"If she has evidence (that Sheik Omran radicalised Mr Ali), provide it to the authorities to shut us down."

Ms Nimale said relatives in Somalia told her al-Qa'ida had recruited her son as an interpreter because he spoke fluent English, and gave him a "secret al-Qa'ida name", which she did not want published.

"The extremists in Somalia or maybe the terrorist in Somalia, al-Qa'ida, they need someone with (a good) education," she said.

Ms Nimale, 48, said some relatives spotted Mr Ali working with the terrorist network several weeks after his wife, Aisha, gave birth to their son, Majahid ("holy warrior") in mid-January.

Ms Nimale said she isolated herself from Melbourne's Somali community following her son's disappearance.

Ms Nimale was angered by some community figures who expressed their sense of pride following news of Mr Ali's death while fighting jihad alongside the Islamic Courts movement.

"They said, 'Your son go to jihad, he's going to go to Jannah (Paradise)'," she said. "I said 'where is Jannah, where is heaven? Kismayo, or Mogadishu?"'

Ms Nimale said her son embraced Wahabism - a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam espoused by bin Laden - shortly after the September 11 attacks in the US in 2001.

She said at that time members of Melbourne's Somalian community whom she'd never met were urging parents to send their children to Islamic literature classes.

"They asked, 'You have boys. We need your boys'," said Ms Nimale, who thought it was a good idea to encourage Mr Ali to attend and learn more about the religion.

Mr Ali became an ultra-conservative within a year. He began wearing traditional Islamic dress and tore up all photographs he found of himself, claiming it was haram (forbidden) to appear in pictures.

He distanced himself from his moderate mother, whom he regarded as a kafir (an infidel), criticised his siblings at home for not following Wahabism, developed a deep resentment towards western values and gave up his TAFE studies in accounting and science to completely focus on religion.

"He was angry every day," said Ms Nimale, who rejected MrAli's hatred of the US and the West.

Mr Ali became an imam at Eight Black, a prayer hall mainly attended by Somalis in north Melbourne.

His brother Ismail, who occasionally attended the prayer hall, told The Australian that people's hardline views only surfaced at small gatherings.

"Eight Black as a prayer hall was okay," he said. "But what people do after is a lot different."

An imam at Eight Black, Sheik al-Somali, said Wahabism was not taught at the prayer centre, and played down Mr Ali's former role there.

"I didn't know of his ideologies or beliefs, but we were all saddened by (his disappearance)," he said.

Ms Nimale attacked her son's wife Aisha, a Muslim convert who married Mr Ali in a secret Wahabi ceremony in 2003, to which his family was not invited.

She said Aisha, 21, returned to Australia two months ago and married Mr Ali's close Wahabi friend Abdul Rahman. Ms Nimale said Abdul Rahman told the community Mr Ali had asked him to take care of the family if he died in his jihad mission.

Ismail said he wanted his brother's story to be told to help prevent other members of the Somali community from turning to Wahabism.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22509826-601,00.html?from=mostpop

fatima_43
01-Oct-2007, 06:33 PM
this article is far too exaggerated imo..



"Sheik Omran is a popular person for people to blame for everything," said Abu Yusuf, who denied ever seeing Mr Ali at the cleric's classes.

"If she has evidence (that Sheik Omran radicalised Mr Ali), provide it to the authorities to shut us down."


exactly

fatima_43
01-Oct-2007, 07:02 PM
i'm sure that any Islamic leader would have been more than delighted to assist her and listen to her story instead of her going and further tarnishing the image of Muslims in the media.. if she cared for her son and the Muslim community she should have gone to a Muslim leader who has the authority to do something..

what's the benefit of this article now? this proves to non-Muslims that some Muslims are ready to sell each other out and are divided...

MrWarraEnib
01-Oct-2007, 07:49 PM
as well out of all people Richard Kerbaj!!!!!!!

aussiemu
01-Oct-2007, 08:00 PM
assalamu alaikum

She is obviously just a grieving mother who wants to blame anyone and anything for her son's death/problems. From other Somalis to Sh. Omran to her son's wife etc. The reality is that whatever he did or didn't do was his own choice in the end and there is no proof that links Sh. Omran to sending Mr. Ali to Somalia otherwise as Abu Yusuf said the authorities would care more.

And to interview with Richard Kerbaj of all people.. urgh. I bet he told her how his interview was somehow going to bring about justice for her son's death.

wassalamu alaikum

cheesegirl
01-Oct-2007, 08:02 PM
:salam:

This shouldn't be called an article, it should be called slanderous and exaggerated junk. I hate this journo.:mad:

Musa
01-Oct-2007, 11:11 PM
"He was angry every day," said Ms Nimale, who rejected MrAli's hatred of the US and the West.I have never met in my whole life a brother with a bigger and more constant smile than Ahmad!!
May Allaah accept him and enter him into the highest of levels of Jannat ul-Firdaws al-A`la.

Just out of curiosity..

who married Mr Ali in a secret Wahabi ceremony in 2003, to which his family was not invited.lol.. What is a secret Wahaabi ceremony like?? I can sure tell you I have never been to one before...!

Inshaa'Allaah any clowns who wish to turn our brothers death into a political pawn will be disgraced in front of Allaah.. Ahmad is free of these absurd claims, and I ask Allaah to have Mercy on him and his family.

Khaled
01-Oct-2007, 11:17 PM
Shaykh Omran is the best. He helped me up the stairs @ IISCA last Friday :D

May Allaah accept Ahmed as a Shaheed

MrWarraEnib
01-Oct-2007, 11:19 PM
ameeen

UmmRashid
02-Oct-2007, 12:31 AM
My favourite is this part...


She said at that time members of Melbourne's Somalian community whom she'd never met were urging parents to send their children to Islamic literature classes.

"They asked, 'You have boys. We need your boys'," said Ms Nimale, who thought it was a good idea to encourage Mr Ali to attend and learn more about the religion.

She's actually quoting ppl who she's never met. And he's citing it in his article as evidence. Now that journalism at its best :rolleyes:

black_blood
02-Oct-2007, 01:55 AM
thats how this guy seems to get his journalism done, very effective, shows how accurate his sources are.:D

isa
02-Oct-2007, 02:47 AM
. . .

what's the benefit of this article now? this proves to non-Muslims that some Muslims are ready to sell each other out and are divided...


. . . Ismail said he wanted his brother's story to be told to help prevent other members of the Somali community from turning to Wahabism.
Richard Garbage

Abu Layla
02-Oct-2007, 09:24 AM
I think a Wahabi secret ceremony is one where the women are secluded from men so that outsiders can't see the women of the Muslims. :p


She accused Mohammed Omran - the head of the fundamentalist Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah association, who believes Osama bin Laden is a "good man" - of turning Mr Ali into a hardliner.

Here he neglects to mention what he was referring to when he said he was a good man, i.e. for his charity work.



She said Mr Ali would not have been radicalised had she and her 10 children remained in Somalia and not migrated to Australia in 1994, two years after her husband was killed in the African region while working as an army commander with the Somali Government.
"I wish I did not come to Australia because he got in trouble in this country ... they (radicals) took my son."


He probably wouldn't have been 'radicalised', he probably would have been fighting against the Muslims with the Ethiopian backed army. What's better? I'd prefer that if I was to fight, to fight for a just cause and not for oppression. Anyhow, if this and if that... QadarAllah, ma shaa'a fa`al. Gotta love the way richard puts radicals in brackets after the 'they'. This is how I'm perceiving it... "they *cough*achoo*RADICALS*EHEM*COUGH*...... took my son :("



Ms Nimale said relatives in Somalia told her al-Qa'ida had recruited her son as an interpreter because he spoke fluent English, and gave him a "secret al-Qa'ida name", which she did not want published.


Wow... 'reveal' all this about him but not his 'secret name' huh?


"The extremists in Somalia or maybe the terrorist in Somalia, al-Qa'ida, they need someone with (a good) education," she said.

Oh please like you don't need to be educated to know how to plot the September 11 attacks, fly a plane, make chemical weapons, store and transport and fire nuclear weapons? (As is suggested) "Al-Qaeda" are a bunch of highly educated people. I mean, the 'no. 2 man' is a doctor.


Ms Nimale was angered by some community figures who expressed their sense of pride following news of Mr Ali's death while fighting jihad alongside the Islamic Courts movement.

"They said, 'Your son go to jihad, he's going to go to Jannah (Paradise)'," she said. "I said 'where is Jannah, where is heaven? Kismayo, or Mogadishu?"'


Qaal Allaahu ta`aala fee Surat an-Nisaa':
فَلْيُقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ الَّذِينَ يَشْرُونَ الْحَيَاةَ الدُّنْيَا بِالآخِرَةِ وَمَن يُقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ فَيُقْتَلْ أَو يَغْلِبْ فَسَوْفَ نُؤْتِيهِ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا
وَمَا لَكُمْ لاَ تُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ وَالْمُسْتَضْعَفِينَ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ وَالنِّسَاء وَالْوِلْدَانِ الَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا أَخْرِجْنَا مِنْ هَـذِهِ الْقَرْيَةِ الظَّالِمِ أَهْلُهَا وَاجْعَل لَّنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ وَلِيًّا وَاجْعَل لَّنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ نَصِيرًا
الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ الطَّاغُوتِ فَقَاتِلُواْ أَوْلِيَاء الشَّيْطَانِ إِنَّ كَيْدَ الشَّيْطَانِ كَانَ ضَعِيفًا

Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward.
And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, ill*treated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help."
Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan); Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaitan (Satan). (4:74-76)

Wa qaala ta`aala:
لاَّ يَسْتَوِي الْقَاعِدُونَ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ غَيْرُ أُوْلِي الضَّرَرِ وَالْمُجَاهِدُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ بِأَمْوَالِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ فَضَّلَ اللّهُ الْمُجَاهِدِينَ بِأَمْوَالِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ عَلَى الْقَاعِدِينَ دَرَجَةً وَكُـلاًّ وَعَدَ اللّهُ الْحُسْنَى وَفَضَّلَ اللّهُ الْمُجَاهِدِينَ عَلَى الْقَاعِدِينَ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا
دَرَجَاتٍ مِّنْهُ وَمَغْفِرَةً وَرَحْمَةً وَكَانَ اللّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا

Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward;
Degrees of (higher) grades from Him, and Forgiveness and Mercy. And Allah is Ever Oft*Forgiving, Most Merciful. (4:95-96)

Abu Layla
02-Oct-2007, 09:28 AM
Ismail said he wanted his brother's story to be told to help prevent other members of the Somali community from turning to Wahabism.
Basically could be translated as:
I, the writer of this article, intend to put out the light of Islam so that people will not come close to Islam.

Alhamdulillaah he can never do that.