A lot of things. But specificity, in the context of Australian society:1- What's wrong with not having a secular education?
1. It is below the typical standard. The typically expected standard in our society is at least high school (or something like that). It would look terrible if Muslim women didn't also have this, as if we are somehow dumber than the rest of society. And they is no reason why we shouldn't have this either - Islam promotes acquisition of both religious and secular knowledge.
2. A person is so disadvantaged if they don't have at least some level of high school. Poor reading/writing skills, poor communication skills, poor analysis skills, poor rational thinking skills, poor understanding of the world around you (history/science and other things) etc. Again, not something to be proud off.
3. The assumption that comes with the stereotype - that Muslim women are stupid/ignorant, good for nothing and forbidden from studying by the male figures in their life.
Nothing - if you weren't raised in an English speaking country. But I'm surprised that you wouldn't find it at least a little annoying for people to automatically assume that you can't speak English because you're Muslim!! Especially for someone like myself, being born and raised in this country!2- What's wrong with not speaking english?
That doesn't work in Australia, at all. But that's for a different thread.3- Forced to wear hijab.. Parents and Husbands have a duty to protect and guide their children.. I dont think many parents would be so defensive if someone said: How dare you force your kids not to take drugs! .. Double standard
Anyway, the problem with the stereotype is that NO I don't wear this because I'm forced by my apparently evil father/husband (you can at least see why that kind of stereotype, about women-hating misogynistic Muslim men is offensive, right?) but because I WANT to wear it!!
10 kids by the age of thirty? I'd be very worried for the womans health - mental and physical! Anyway, whoever said the stereotype has anything with being a good mum and wanting to have lots of kids?4-What's wrong with being a good housewife and raising many kids at a young age?! Nothing..
Anyway the point of the stereotypes are not that they are offensive in and of themselves (because many of them aren't technically things to be ashamed of, such as not being able to speak English) but the arrogant, ill-intending attitude that comes with it! This assumption that Muslim men are evil and that Muslim women are uneducated, ignorant and oppressed!
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24-Oct-2008 09:40 PM"Have they not travelled in the land so that they should have hearts with which to understand, or ears with which to hear? For surely it is not the eyes that are blind, but blind are the hearts which are in the breasts."
[al-Hajj, ayah 46]
24-Oct-2008 10:08 PM
I must say I'm hugely insulted by that statement as well. Muslim women are the best, most honourable of all humankind, just by being mothers, wives and daughters, they don't need careers and jobs to be successful in this duniya or the Aakhira. A woman who dies in a state that her husband is pleased with her will enter Jannah, it's a pretty simple equation for success and I honestly don't see why women need to complicate their lives so much.Hadith Rasool (SAW): "Allah (SWT) will have mercy on those who are merciful to others. If you treat dwellers of the earth kindly, then He who dwells in the heavens will treat you kindly."
25-Oct-2008 11:48 PM
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Yeah anyways I dont really know where all these posts are going... all i kow is that any Muslim females that work, should register their details.
And once they put out the listing, use it as an Islamic yellow pages.
This way you know that any money that leaves your hands will be going towards other Muslims, and inturn probably coming back to you or your family.
Why not? It's just like a Muslim women's yellow pages.
Also I dont know if it's on the website or not but they're planning to have training sessions (business and religious training sessions).
The idea isn't to put down women that don't work, it's to increase the business of Muslim women (with God's permission). I mean I only work like 15 hours a week, I consider myself a stay-at-home mum more than a 'working' woman and I see both sides of all arguments brought up.
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20-Nov-2008 10:18 PM
What ever happened to just being content with the simple things.
It starts off with wanting more money, then more stuff, then wanting more people loving you for having so much stuff, then life becomes a competition for success in the dunya, rather than success in the akhira. meh.How canst thou say to thy brother,Brother,let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.
21-Nov-2008 07:09 AM
I missed this when you replied..I'm so sorry.
Can you pm me your ideas and I'll take them to the sisters and to the Mercy Mission CEO.. that's all we need at the moment .. your ideas. We can work with you then to help your ideas come to fruition insha'Allah, if the ideas are accepted as projects.
again I'm sorry I missed your request earlier. Insha'Allah we can still act on your ideas.
Jazaki Allahu khair
21-Nov-2008 08:51 AM
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Submission I'm with you
21-Nov-2008 09:32 AM
If you have a computer at home and internet connection.. you can do many many things from home that use your skills and talents and earn you rewards and assst the Muslim community ..
No children and no distractions mean you can be a huge help.. and better still.. it keeps your skills current cos many jobs now and even training organisations recognize experience as volunteers.
When you then have children you can reduce but keep your involvement.
personally I didn't work in the paid workforce for almost 20 years and walked into a job three years ago based on my voluntary work experience.. which has grown from there alhamdulillah.