Muslim men and NonMuslim Men

[ibnsomeone]

it's been my experience that they are quite nice and real curious creatures.

Are they created different or something?

[Newbee]

@Samer

If the world was worth half the wing of a mosquito to Allaah, Allaah would not give the kaafireen water to drink, ever wonder why that is?

Kufr is the lowest of the low, yet they make shirk along with it, attributing Allaah's attributes to everything created (except Allaah).

What they say on their tongue is one thing, what they conceal in their heart is far worse.

Never will they be pleased with you until you become one like they are.

A Muslim uses manners and kindness but do not ever forget why their behaviour/actions/disbelief will land them in the nar.

[SammerTX]

Kufr is in many different forms and we can't treat every non Muslim like as if they are Abu Jahl.

[from water]

He clearly said we use manners and kindness.

[Girl]

Muslim men - Normal men who believe in Allaah and usually care to do the right thing set by Allaah and his messenger (SalAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam).

Kaafir men - Normal men who need to practice more hygiene (I care not to elaborate). They do not believe in Allaah and/or his messenger (SalAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) thus in my eyes are like haywaan.

What's a haywaan?

[SammerTX]

hayawaan = animal.

[Girl]

^ is that in arabic?

So Newbee you regard every non - muslim as an animal? I wonder how you'd feel if a non - muslim called every muslim that just because they were muslim

[from water]

Weeeeelll.... he can always go to a place like the yahoo news and see the comments on any Islam related article. Then he can see a bunch of non-Muslims call all Muslims a bunch of things far worse than just "animal". Or he could just watch TV, a place Muslims are commonly ridiculed and made out to be backwards.

I personally like it. It just makes me more convinced I'm on the right path because these people never change and are exactly as the Qur'aan describes them.

[Girl]

And you think that's ok? To call people animals because of religious belief? "I'm doing it because he did it first" seems very juvenile.

If you think its ok to call someone an animal don't whinge when someone does it to you

[from water]

Eh? I didn't call anyone anything, nor did I say they did it first, nor did I whinge (appends to vocabulary).

I just found it funny that you would ask someone how they like it as if they've never experienced it before when it is so widespread they can't possibly not have.

[Girl]

I never said I thought they hadn't expereinced it before I said "I wonder how you would feel", and I think it's safe to say most muslims don't like been called animals

[from water]

Well we aren't plants....

[juhu10]

One very patriotic type Christian Aussie once said to me "Aussie women aren't worth spitting on now". Dunno what he thinks about the men.

wow that's really harsh. even i wouldn't say that

[Tay_]

Salamu Alaykum, brothers, i was just wondering what Muslim men think of nonMuslim Western men. We always see them talking about you and how evil and misogynist you are etc. etc., but we never see you talking about them. So i'm curious, what are you views of them? do you admire them, respect them, fear them, want to be like them etc.? thanks for any feedback

Wasalam

Like Muslims, there are both good/bad Non Muslims. I have had better experiences with some Non-Muslims over Muslims, in terms of their manners, behaviour etc and vice versa. I pray for their guidance as opposed to their demise, the same way I pray for the guidance of Muslims. They are my brothers in humanity.

[Newbee]

Kufr is in many different forms and we can't treat every non Muslim like as if they are Abu Jahl.

Use manners and kindness, that means show them the beauty of Islaam in your behavior and mannerisms, however never forget that the creator knows his creation better than you and I...

Some kaafireen are sincere human beings but their way of life is what I call by the way of the haywaan, they are not governed by Gods law, but man's law and some are not governed by any law or call to the ways of jahiliyaah or worse.

@Girl,

What they say on their tongues is one thing (and look at their behavior toward Muslims) and what is in their hearts is far worse.

Some kaafirs do not care, they just want to do their own thing, but in places like Bosnia their neighbors were the same, they considered one another brothers and by the manipulation of the authorities and media they turned on their so called Muslim "brethren". Do not forget that history repeats itself over and over when the nature of mankind is concerned.

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I obviously sound like Mr "hate" but one of the best of deeds is to love and hate for the sake of Allaah, we need to know where the balance lies.

[SammerTX]

Ok so after all that, what are you saying exactly about non Muslims?

[UmmSalwa]

Well personally I am agree with Tay There's always good and bad in Muslim or non Muslim Men, I Actually Agree to look at non Muslim ( men or women ) as fellow Human that deserved respect after all we all ALLAH creation !! I meet many good Muslim men and good non Muslim men equally , I often pray to ALLAH for those men and women that not accept ISLAM yet in their lives to be guide to Islam..Because My Husband is a REVERT and he was non Believer once Alhamdulilah Because of ALLAH and the brothers that treat him with full respect and never judge him make him draw to Islam.. Inshallah People Loves Islam because it's such beautiful religion that teach peace,respect,harmony and The TRUTH !! Not religion that called people Haywan/animal !! any wayz who do we think we are to judge other people like that!! who know that person that we called Haywan if ALLAH guides HIm, he becomes the most beautiful Muslim ever walk the earth!! So I think I am happy to think that every non Muslim Men/Women as potential Muslim ...Only ALLAH SWT knew the Best !!

[Umm Binyameen]

I think we have to keep a balance here. While we shouldn't like them the way they are (on kufr) and we should dislike their behaviour, we should always be hopeful that Allah (swt) will guide them, and make du'a for them.

And you might say 'some non-muslims are better than muslims in their behaviour' which is true, still their behaviour as a non-muslim won't benefit them on the Day of Judgement if they die on disbelief. So we shouldn't give them too much attention for that. An example is Oprah. She does so much good for many people, but how does it benefit her really? And mixed in with the good she does, sometimes she also guides people to a lot of haram. So the best thing is to hope that Allah (swt) guides her and then she could do amazing things, but doing them as a disbeliever really doesn't count much.

[Abu Layla]

Yeh i thought it was a bit harsh. But he was comparing Aussie women during the wars of the past, and Aussie women these days. He told me how great they used to be as opposed to now.

[Musa]

When we say 'non-Muslim men' we are talking about approximately 2 and a half billion people here.. To even try and generalise them is absurd as they really have nothing in common other than being men and non-Muslims.

You will find non-Muslims who are intelligent and some who are far from it. Some who are clean in thoughts and actions and some who are not. Some who are honest and some who are liars.
What really differentiates us then is belief, we are Muslims and they are not (yet). So, I see them as people in need who we are here to call to Islam. Anything else would not be fair as no 2 men are truly alike, let alone 2-3 billion people.