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    That's probably why people suggested a non-confronting approach with a letter. That way you are still doing dawah and it's not in your face either. It can even be mailed to them at their place of business if a person doesn't want to pass it over themselves. There is ways of doing things without giving up doing the dawah too
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesegirl View Post
    Falah I'm not a prophet - Allah did not tell me to specifically guide a poeple.
    Imagine if every Muslim said that. There would be nobody guiding anybody.
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    That is Jewish-style thinking. They think that they can do anything to Gentiles/non-Jews.
    Yes true...this person apparently prayed in the masjid 5 times a day SubhaanAllah
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    Quote Originally Posted by falah View Post
    Imagine if every Muslim said that. There would be nobody guiding anybody.

    My point was that Yunus was sent to those specific people and they were hus SPECIFIC responsibility. We have a general responsibility to give dawah, not a specific one. So you cant compare us to him. I obviously was not saying we don't have to give dawah.
    "Have they not travelled in the land so that they should have hearts with which to understand, or ears with which to hear? For surely it is not the eyes that are blind, but blind are the hearts which are in the breasts."
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    Destroy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesegirl View Post
    My point was that Yunus was sent to those specific people and they were hus SPECIFIC responsibility. We have a general responsibility to give dawah, not a specific one. So you cant compare us to him. I obviously was not saying we don't have to give dawah.
    No but sis if you see the sunnah of the Prophet and Sahaba, they always told anyone whom they saw. Even Omar (r. a) when he was on his deathbed after having been struck by Abu Lu'Lu'aa, a boy came in to have some words with him. When he was leaving he saw his clothes were too long, so he called him back. He told him, O son of my brother, higher up your clothes for that is purer for your heart and better for your clothes (they won't rip and so on from being dragged). The point is that even in such a state, he still addresses such details we might see small.

    I went to a Pakistani grocery and I saw they had advertisements for eyebrow plucking. I told the store owner (in so many words that led up to it because I was being tactful) that this was forbidden and he was pointing people to it, and that his store will probably have more barakah if he took it down. He laughed and told me half seriously not to blow his store up. I did give and take with him a bit about it, but his overall idea was that if people chose to take part in this it's not his problem. And people did, because it's one of those ads where you tear a piece off with the info on it, and there was barely any left, and one of them had them all taken, so at least 10-15 people or so were interested. Anyway, I did my job. Next time I go I'll bother him about it again insha Allah, I do owe them a couple of dollars on my tab.

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    well I went to a particular Muslim owned restaurant that had alcohol and I asked the guy making my kebab about it and he said 'if people wanna do wrong that's up to them' I'm like but you don't supply them with it...
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    I think there a couple of things that get lost when dealing with this.

    I'd say if one is not proficient in dealing with such situations, they could very well have the opposite effect and reinforce the common belief religious people are unfairly judgmental.

    We also forget how approachable the Prophet (pbuh) was. People who had just fornicated, or wanted to or committed big sins simply walked up to him and told them what they did. We're talking about a people who were very harsh by nature as well. They'd even interrupt his halaqas with his closest Companions and demand of him such absurd things. This was the level of trust and love they had for him and he never scolded or criticised them. He knew how to deal with people very well and did not propose far fetched solutions based on idealistic constructs.

    He was relevant and real and spoke their language. They could relate to him because he had such empathy and understanding and never judged them, even when the sin was apparent. His social intelligence was beyond reproach.

    So - do we give off the same vibe? Do "non religious" people or those knowingly in sin feel comfortable with us?

    Good and evil have always existed even under the most ideal society in Madina during the Prophet's time.

    We we do not turn a blind eye to it but we should prioritise and have a comprehensive understanding of the situation before we act.
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    As in the example Musa gave:

    Perhaps, rather than writing them a letter, befriend them, and invite them to a 'talk'.

    Could be more beneficial.
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