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    Student Of Knowledge abu khattab's Avatar
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    Oops
    I posted it twice.
    If you do have access to arabic books of tafseer, it should not be a great problem.
    Am i allowed to answer it myself?
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    baraa'a the same name that is given to surat attawba?
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    Nope
    however in theory you are very close
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    Akhi
    off this topic I want to ask.
    if I want to post a statement in my siganture.
    however it is in a particular arabic font that I dont want to lose.
    what should I do?
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    baraa'a min alshirk? Thats what I found in ibn katheer but I don't know which other surah is called baraa' min alshirk, baraa'a (surat attawba).

    For the question abou the sig your question in the support/feedback forum that way more people can see it and help you out because I don't know.
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    Ok
    Akhi theory
    Your reference in Ibn Katheer is correct. However, the answer is not there.
    It is found in other books of Tafseer.
    The concept is correct, The ayah does speak about Baraa' min Al Shirk Wal Kufr. Hence, it was given this name as well.
    HOWEVER This is not the name I am after. The scholars gave it another name that it relates to its meaning.
    There is not another name for the Surah.
    Look for other books of Tafseer.

    Wallahi you are very close and the name is well known to all of you but it takes a bit of thinking.

    I can give a hint if you want.
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    let me think a lil longer then
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    ok
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    Assalamu Alaikum
    I have to go now

    So Inshallah I will provide you with the answer tomorrow or later on tonight
    If Allah the Al-Mighty grants me life.
    Otherwise forgive me
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    Bro abu khattab, Is the answer almekashkesha(المقشقشة) the same name for surah al-falaq (الفلق)...
    اللهم إني أسألك الإخلاص في القول والعمل
    اللهم فرج هم كل مهموم، وارزقه من حيث لا يحتسب
    اللهم اشف كل مريض بشفائك الذي لا يغادر مرضا
    اللهم ارزق كل محروم بالذرية الصالحة الطيبة

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    wat does (المقشقشة) mean?
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    i didnt know my self akhi but i searched in google and this is what i found

    السؤال
    لقد أرسلت إليكم من قبل أسأل عن السورة التي تسمى بالمقشقشة، فبرجاء الرد علي أفادكم الله؟
    الفتوى

    الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه، أما بعـد:

    فإن السورة التي تسمى المقشقشة بصيغة اسم الفاعل هي سورة التوبة، وتسمى سورة براءة، وتسمى الفاضحة، ومعنى المقشقشة أي المبرئة سميت بذلك لأنها تبرئ وتخلص من آمن بما فيها من النفاق، وتسمى بهذا الاسم أيضا سورة الكافرون، لأنها تبرئ من الشرك، كما تسمى بهذا الاسم أيضاً سورة الفلق وسورة الناس.

    وعلى ذلك فيكون اسم المقشقشة مشتركاً بين أربع سور هي: التوبة وهي الأشهر بهذا الاسم من بين الأربعة، وسورة الكافرون، وسورة الفلق، وسورة الناس، جاء ذلك في تفسير القرطبي وتفسير التحرير والتنوير لابن عاشور عن ابن عباس.

    والله أعلم.
    ٌReference:http://www.islamweb.net.qa/ver2/Fatw...Option=FatwaId
    اللهم إني أسألك الإخلاص في القول والعمل
    اللهم فرج هم كل مهموم، وارزقه من حيث لا يحتسب
    اللهم اشف كل مريض بشفائك الذي لا يغادر مرضا
    اللهم ارزق كل محروم بالذرية الصالحة الطيبة

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    So actaully my search would help me answer it better...so the name is called al mekhashkhesha and its referred to four surah which are: surah al-kafiron, al falaq, al nas and al-tawbah
    اللهم إني أسألك الإخلاص في القول والعمل
    اللهم فرج هم كل مهموم، وارزقه من حيث لا يحتسب
    اللهم اشف كل مريض بشفائك الذي لا يغادر مرضا
    اللهم ارزق كل محروم بالذرية الصالحة الطيبة

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    Quote Originally Posted by theory
    u can take meca colas turn since he hasn't shown up unless he turns up before u post ur question
    Since I was unable to get on the net for a while, and I got the question right, would it not be appropriate that I recieve my reward for being the first to answer correctly and ask my question?

    I know you all have gone off on your own and continued, however I don't ask many questions here and I ask if I can have my right to ask my question...
    Il futuro appartiene all'Islam
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    Ask, ask
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    sure akhi u can ask..but we waitting for the bro abu khattab to confirm the answer before carrying on with a next question? Having said so u r more than welcome to ask a question now since i believe my answer it correct
    اللهم إني أسألك الإخلاص في القول والعمل
    اللهم فرج هم كل مهموم، وارزقه من حيث لا يحتسب
    اللهم اشف كل مريض بشفائك الذي لا يغادر مرضا
    اللهم ارزق كل محروم بالذرية الصالحة الطيبة

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecca Cola
    Since I was unable to get on the net for a while, and I got the question right, would it not be appropriate that I recieve my reward for being the first to answer correctly and ask my question?

    I know you all have gone off on your own and continued, however I don't ask many questions here and I ask if I can have my right to ask my question...
    answer more questions and u will get to post more, but since we stole ur turn u can post this time
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    Salaam ALaykum
    my apologies I have been sick, hence have not been surfing the net.
    I like the search that you did sister but it is not the answer I am looking for.
    It is very common to have multiple names for the suwar of the book of Allah.

    All the answers you gave are correct in concept but they are not the one I am looking for.
    Do you want a hint?
    or should I just give the answer so bro mecca cola pose his question???
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    Out of interest Omar Bin Al Khattab used to refer to surat Al- Tawba as Al Muqashqasha and used to like it. He used to say it is the surah that exposed Al Munaafiqoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by abu khattab
    Salaam ALaykum
    my apologies I have been sick, hence have not been surfing the net.
    I like the search that you did sister but it is not the answer I am looking for.
    It is very common to have multiple names for the suwar of the book of Allah.

    All the answers you gave are correct in concept but they are not the one I am looking for.
    Do you want a hint?
    or should I just give the answer so bro mecca cola pose his question???
    hint first insha'Allah then brother musa can post his question
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